“trust his judgement”
Wednesday, April 11th, 2007 by Nestor
Well as long as Hung isn’t posting I’ll continue posting these.
According to Hyung he’s not going to stop drawing and he’ll be taking commissions.
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April 12th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Woo commissions! Butts and Boobs by the Barrel full!
April 12th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Commisions? For comics or for stuff businesses may want like making logos?
April 12th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Hyung is going Hentai/commercial on us?
April 12th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
How much money does he think web comics fans have, anyway?
April 13th, 2007 at 2:26 am
Nuh, I just asked Nestor about them… if he knew some websites or such.
I hadn’t plan to on take any commission from yous guys.
(Mostly since you’re all deadbeats like me…)
April 13th, 2007 at 4:30 am
Too true.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:40 am
You might as well put up a commissions page on your site, even if you go around looking for them on other places, this site does get visited by hundreds of new people every day, so you never know who’s going to come a-clicking. It also serves as a nice showcase of all your work.
April 13th, 2007 at 5:27 am
Hey, I bought two off you before (Pirate Hyung, and Chibi Trout).
I’m going to plug my scanner in this weekend and upload a gallery of all the webcomic originals I’ve bought.
Would you do a portrait/caricature of me?
(I have to find a reference for the one I’m getting from Blue Cat Club.)
April 13th, 2007 at 7:39 am
krththodrellen
April 13th, 2007 at 9:21 am
lots of webcomics take commissions.
i think nearly all of them do.
or sell original art.
back in the day Hyung would send you an origianal drawing that he had used to make kung fool if ya donated a buck or two.
didnt he?
April 13th, 2007 at 11:23 am
Thanks for putting in the background thingy, Nestor. Now I feel safe from the title bar that could have toppled over anytime in the previous scheme.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:44 pm
safety first…
April 13th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
So, basicly what you’re saying is Hyung isn’t throwing his pen away, but rather he’s doing another cut-and-run operation on a project (several projects, really) that no longer interest him. I swear, the only thing he’s ever done fully was that one episode of the original Kung Fool, and that’s probably only because he planned it all out and did it in one fell swoop.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
I fail to see where it’s written that he owes you, or the universe, anything at all. If you’re so concerned about it commission him to finish your favourite project, he’ll probably price himself far too cheap anyway.
April 14th, 2007 at 12:06 pm
Well, I for one think that it is high time that we dispense with all this ‘being reasonable and grateful’ bullshit and start rounding up freewheeling webcomickers and putting them to work. Couldn’t we just pay them with virtual pats on their backs? Surely their elation at being recognised by the likes of us ought to be enough to fuel their bodily systems? And when the landlord evicts them, couldn’t we start an internet movement against such stiflers of artistic expression? Those landlords should be able to afford letting hard working webcomickers rent apartments for free. In fact, they should feel honoured to have the opportunity to contribute to the arts!
Also; Hyung owes Neo Kojiro. And the universe. There. It has been written.
I’M IN UR SITE, WRITTIN IN UR BOX!!!!
April 15th, 2007 at 4:38 am
Groovy
April 15th, 2007 at 5:54 am
I’m not saying he owes me, i’m saying he’s a slacker for not finishing his shit. He can go ahead and abandon his past projects, but he sucks for doing so and my indignation will continue for it. Furthermore, unlike Crazy Kimchi, which was just a series of humorous strips, the other projects had a proper plot and as such should at least be properly concluded. I say properly, ’cause i don’t want some horrible cop-out like how he made a text-based completion to what happened with the four main Kung Fool characters after he stopped drawing it.
Furthermore, i hate people who start something then stop once they get distracted, especially when it’s something that matters to other people. I’m pissed at Ian J. for RPG World, and i’m pissed at Clay for Thin H Line. Uncle Ghastly gets off, though, ’cause apparently he’s crazy; additionally, he’s cool enough to get away with it.
April 15th, 2007 at 6:16 am
I’ve got a whole heap of Hyung’s original sketches up on my walls and I can’t think of any web comic artist out there whose talents I respect as much. Is there some way of bringing back the great old days of Kung Fool to the point where donations/advertising could be a viable form of supporting an artist so he’s not stuck making tentacle porn for food?
(Although, to be honest, there was plenty of fan service..)
April 15th, 2007 at 7:01 am
There’s a conclusion to Kung Fool written in text? Gimme!
April 15th, 2007 at 7:36 am
>>I fail to see where it’s written that he owes you, or the universe, anything at all. If you’re so concerned about it commission him to finish your favourite project, he’ll probably price himself far too cheap anyway.
Last year we paid around 200 bucks to get some of the stories finished. Thats why he owes us. But I’ll let bygones be bygones.
April 15th, 2007 at 7:56 am
I thought that was $100 for one page of one of the comics, and that only one of the comics actually reached $100, and that was thanks to a single donation of $100. Did he do that page though? I don’t remember which comic got the gold, but I’m guessing that it was Kung Fool.
April 15th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
“I fail to see where it’s written that he owes you, or the universe, anything at all. If you’re so concerned about it commission him to finish your favourite project, he’ll probably price himself far too cheap anyway.”
He did. Both ask us to commission our favo(u)rite project, and price himself to cheaply. I believe he also promised gifts to people who donated over $10. I popped 15 bucks towards Murder at the Chateau, but Kill Harry won with over 100.
If He finished either then I’d donate again.
And as far as the Universe goes, it has happily been moving towards perfect entropic equilibrium since long before Hyung was born. I’d rather say it was an bit of an inconvenience for the universe to reduce it’s local entropy enough to entertain Hyung’s creation. He owes the cosmos big time. You better hope it likes Webcomics.
April 15th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Whoa 200 bucks for that? The dude lives in LA, that’s expensive as hell, you can barely get out the door for 200 bucks. Nah, 200 buys you what you got, several new pages of Kill Harry, in colour even.
Send more cash.
April 15th, 2007 at 11:52 pm
You know, I think this is the first time I’ve seen people angry over this shit. Personally I’m shocked and amazed he hasn’t totally dropped off the face of the earth already. I mean most web comic artists don’t even last long enough to make it to a second failed project, HSK has made it up to, what, five now? Thats a lot more than most hacks crank out. Now if I could just find the flash test he did years back of the topless chick… *hint* *hint*
April 16th, 2007 at 12:27 am
Well he could always get lucky and have Goldman steal something of his.
*Steals a “boys are stupid throw rocks at them” T-shirt and makes off after Lando242*
Hold still you!
April 16th, 2007 at 3:39 am
Good artists make art. Bad artists make excuses. If you aren’t creating, you aren’t an artist, no matter how much talent you have.
I’m not mad at HK, just disappointed.
However, it takes a special kind of arrogance to ask people to vote for a website, or click on its ads, when it has no new content.
April 16th, 2007 at 6:52 am
Huyng never asked us to click on vote buttons or adverts. That was Nestor, the site Admin. IIRC Hyung started removing adverts from the site at one point.
Not that I have any trouble with them, as Nestor has pointed out many times, they don’t make much money, and I think the re-runs are more enjoyable than most webcomics first time round.
April 16th, 2007 at 7:51 am
I ought to put some sort of avatar system in place so people don’t get mad at things I say thinking it’s Hyung. He’s well able to rile people up on his own.
April 16th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Hyung how much for a 30 page comic, original content I’ll write the story and you draw. 3 months deadline, you do not have to be precise just give the nearest power of ten. I’m curious to know if I could afford you.
April 17th, 2007 at 12:06 am
>Last year we paid around 200 bucks to get some of the stories finished. Thats why he owes us. But I’ll let bygones be bygones.
Actually that little test showed that the site then could NOT be a way to make money… sort of the final nail in the coffin, if you will.
And a penciled page is worth about 30 bucks, inked plus toned~ about 100 bucks per finished page. Color, double that. I’m not saying I should be making that– I can’t I don’t “work” for anyone nor is what is on the site what I would consider “pro” level by any means, but that is (or was ~12 years ago) the going rate.
Current rates (after a goolge check):
SCRIPT (per page)
Beginning Rates: $40 to $60
High End Rates: $80 to $100
PENCILS (per page)
Beginning Rates: $80 to $120
High End Rates: $180 to $200
INKS (per page)
Beginning Rates: $40 to $60
High End Rates: $100 to $140
COLORING (per page)
Beginning Rates: $20 to $25
High End Rates: $35 to $40
LETTERS (per page)
Beginning Rates: $20 to $25
High End Rates: $35 to $40
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.comics.misc/browse_thread/thread/751e3c5ca248dd2f/9194a83fea0c1d8%239194a83fea0c1d8
>However, it takes a special kind of arrogance to ask people to vote for a website, or click on its ads, when it has no new content.
How ’bout I tell Nestor to chop up the pages in to panels and place ads in between?
(I use firefox adblock, btw… Mostly to get the default background color of news site to Grey instead of blinding White.)
>avatar system in place so people don’t get mad at things I say thinking it’s Hyung. He’s well able to rile people up on his own.
Do so. I prefer people to get mad at me for my racism, not greed.
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Basically guys, the comic take time. After all’s been said and done, I just don’t have them. I need those hours to work, to buy food and shelter. It was a nice ride, I wished it could have last longer, but…. these things end. So it goes.
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>Hyung how much for a 30 page comic, original content I’ll write the story and you draw. 3 months deadline, you do not have to be precise just give the nearest power of ten.
Tokyopop pays shit (~90 to 100 per finished BW page, though they do pay by 200 page book), compare to mainstream color monthlies… I was willing to draw someone else’s story for Tokyopop for that much… why not your’s?
90 X 30 = 2,700
If you’re serious, I’d be willing to down to… 70 per page (oh pride!)
70 X 30 = 2,100!
Send me the script, I do some sketches, character designs on spec, after approval, then like an actual professional gig, you pay half up front and the rest after completion on time.
On the up side the quality would be double these scribbles I put on this site and I can finish it in 30 days, a day per page.
You can print it out and sell hard copies for profit, if you want. (Color covers, extra.) If enough people buy it, you can hire me again for a second issue.
~ and that’s what we call the comic book biz!