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hey now…it’s not the Japs’ fault. It’s part of their culture. Did you know that, until the early 19th century, they were disallowed from building large sea-going vessels by a governmental decree?
….but seriously, the whole place really needs to deepen their gene pool…
Deus | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 10:09 pm | #
cool shades
DFG | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 10:15 pm | #
Equal? Just? Fair? Dude, did you ever HAVE brothers and sisters?
Well, I remember that the last time the Japanese tried to “deepen” their gene pool, their cities were leveled by napalms and nukes. So who’s restraining whom?
He’s just upset because you never see any cool Korean martial arts flicks… China has kick-ass monks, Japan has kick ass Ninja.. What does Korea have (other than “the bomb”)?
Wet Jimmy | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 12:34 am | #
Oh, wait. Doesn’t Korea have that dude from Best of the Best?
Wet Jimmy | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 12:34 am | #
Woo! Equality for everyone! Nukes and Death all around!
No no no, you have it all wrong. The Japs are our friends! They make anime! Their women are cute! They make an effort to be more like America! This is a culture that obviously needs to stand alongside the rest of the world for all time.
Now, the FRENCH : that’s a different story.
P.S. The glasses look very nice, but unless I see Hugo Weaving make a cameo in Crazy Kimchi I will not believe in you as the true One.
>He’s just upset because you never see any cool Korean martial arts flicks… China has kick-ass monks, Japan has kick ass Ninja.. What does Korea have
Everybody has monks. Ninja is just a Jap. word for “Spy” before Frank Miller made it so popular during the eighties. There’s lots of Korean Martial Art movies of late. There hasn’t been a lot of Samurai movies though.
All the East Asian Martial Arts have some connection with the original Shao-Lin monks of 4th century AD. Whose founder Bodi-darma was an Indian monk who brought the mediation and fighting techniques of Kalarippayattu to China.
The sword making techniques and the sword makers that has become synonymous in with the Samurai flicks all came from Shilla Kingdom, when Yamato was the boondocks, equivalent to nomadic Vandals to Rome or Greece (and, of course they were sacked by the barbarians, as well.)
But the real reason Koreans express anti-Jap sentiment is two-fold.
One is obviously when Japan, newly industrialized after their successful pro-monarchist revolution, invaded and colonized Corea (it was changed to “K”orea, believe it or not, because Jap. authorities didn’t want Corea in front of Japan in the Western dictionaries.). This is no different then your Irish uncle bitching about the “bloody English” or a Mexican reminding a gringo why California is entirely filled with Spanish names.
A second systemic factor is largely overlooked by Koreans themselves. Until the mid-nineties, Korea was ruled by de-facto Juntas, with all the regular hallmarks of coups, tanks in the streets every decade or two, and regular jailing of dissenters and activists (with full support of the US, of course). Anti-communist propaganda was kept at the highest levels well into the nineties. And to keep up the nationalistic fervor, the anit-Japanese sentiments were always whipped up as much as possible. (Never mind that the two counties share identical economic systems and are virtually run by the same few dozen corporations)
It’s the same formula, keep the people paranoid, keep them righteously angry. It works for Korea, it works for Isreal/Palastine and it works here, in post 9-11 USA.
But the thing about Japan is…
Being considered barely civilized barbarians basically until 19th century (that’s ~2,000 years), Japan has historically had a massive inferiority complex towards Korea and China. When they lost WWII, during the occupation, they decide to be “Asia” to the Americans, in turn the West. Since then, for the last fifty years, Japan has had a monopoly on Asian culture, defining, altering, adjusting, the continental history. They can hardly ignore China, but they do try to omit Korea when ever possible. Seriously, they just omit the entire country, where they got most of their civilization from. (China is a vastly different culture from K & J, btw)
[Continued...]
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 2:15 am | #
Of course, not like they had any competition. Civil war in Korea, China, fighting a proxy war with US there, wasn’t even recognized until Nixon, then Vietnam, Hong Kong is a hodge podge of refugees, a multinational British port.
So Americans go to Asia, they go to Tokyo. See tea ceremony, do Ekibono, laugh at how these short yellow Japanese are just like humans, but kooky and different. Until it became a economic power house, a distant electronic mecca for the video game generation, the only people who cared were the odd mystics like Allen Watts doing their Zen thing or the peculiar Gaijins who were better being “Japanese” then most of the post-war inhabitants of the islands, who already had full time jobs living in the 20th century and were too busy making a living to practice Bushido (!).
Of course most Japanese don’t know and couldn’t care less about any of these things. They”ve been busy churning out electronic crap for American consumers since the fifties, with their kids consuming Beatles, blue jeans, McDonalds in return. One of the reason why Anime and Manga is so popular on either side of the Pacific is that both of the post-war generations reflect in themselves the same rootless, ahistorical, media saturated, consumer oriented pop culture, the de-facto culture of 21th century Earth.
PS This a draft of a column I’m writing for Comixpedia. But I’m not sure how I can relate all this to webcomics so I’ll save this a separate rant or something.
PPS No one actually gives a shit that much. For example: My old man loves to bitch about the Japanese, but loves the music, the old time Jap. music he heard from his childhood, etc…
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 2:16 am | #
Has my mom been talking to you? haha…
Seriously though, you tell ‘em, HS.
I’m surprised at how lax your dad is toward the japanese listening to their music and all though; my mom has such a blinding hatraed for them, she has nothing but venom to say for the people or anything related to Japan. She’ll never watch a japanese movie or listen to their music, and she swears she will never set foot in japan. She’d rather die. I think she’d disown me if I ever brought home a japanese girlfriend. (Well, first she’d die of shock that I actually brought home a girlfriend, but that’s beside the point)
I ususally shake my head and try to point out how racist she’s being, but at the same time, I really can’t blame her for how she feels. I can’t imagine what it must be like to be born in the immediate aftermath of something like the Korean war. And know–and see with your own eyes–the horrific, inhuman, atrocities your oppressors have committed on your father and mother and fellow countrymen.
I judge everyone individually and hey, what the hell did these young japanese kids ever do to me?, but when I read about how the japanese military made Korean friends skin each other alive, or how they kept Korean women as “comfort women”, gang-raping them on a regular basis as causually as you would go play video games(which the Japanese government still refuse to apologize for), I have to admit, the amount of rage and sadness I feel scares me.
Yeah yeah, I know I know, you heartless bastards, these things happen in all wars and all opressed nations blah blah blah, but it’s hard to feel so impartial and distant when it’s your own people, your own flesh and blood.
DKK | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:16 am | #
Dude. That was seriously cool. It kinda moved me.
*hears the cries of ‘f@g!’ and ‘communist!’ and coughs*
Then again, as a product of a long-since authocratic State my nationalistic feelings are well ingrained in my way of thinking. Even if I understand that those feelings kept the PRI on top of the lot for longer than the CCCP’s Communist Party.
Thus I admit I’m a hypocrite. Or at best, confused. I long for a day when all humankind can be together in peace like the UN-Flag-in-the-background-speech expressed, yet, for example I still resent my American brothers for what how they raped my country back in the late 1840s.
How can we hope for global unity when we are such a fractured, fscked up family?
And now, for a ligther note: Baby Skaters! (http://www.sonypictures.com/tv/shows/ripleys/ database/assets/baby_skater.jpg)
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Thing I learned today: So that’s why we call it Corea in Spanish…
Grammar Notes: Ekibono=Ikebana? Also, in the comic you meant ‘Ark’ as in Noah’s or ‘Park’ as in I-messed-up-and-missed-the-P?
Adendum: How to relate the rant to comics? I dunno… maybe making a point of how comics (both web-based or printed) are part of this rootless, ahistorical, media saturated, consumer oriented pop culture we are living in?
As Neo would say, “Woah”. That was educational. cool.
>It’s the same formula, keep the people paranoid, keep them righteously angry. It works for Korea, it works for Isreal/Palastine and it works here, in post 9-11 USA.
There’s nothing wrong with Japanese people! Sure a sense of racism against foreigners exists in the more rural areas of Japan, but its not THAT bad.
Still, funny. BUT DAMMIT! Couldn’t you have said the Germans or something like that? A nation of people that is mutually hated and distrusted by all?
Canada. Canadians would be more apt for that..
Josh | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:54 am | #
Ah yes, the “Skinning Alive” one!
That’s a great way to subdue the population.
You “invite” the whole village and choose a couple…
It’s one of a long line of ways to keep control, kill several people as a example and the rest follow! Napoleon use to have his army pick up 20 random people off the street and have them executed in the town square. And of course the Germans… forgetaboutit!
The Zang Yimou [great Chinese non-kungfu director] movie “Red Sorghum” has a scene where the occupation Japanese Army captures this gang leader and forces one of his underlings to skin him alive. The first one takes the butcher knife, thinks a bit and charges at the soldier and gets shot. Then the Sergeant shoves the knife at this feeble minded guy and makes him do it. He’s crying, “Sorry Boss, sorry Boss…” while the leader is cursing the Jap. soldiers out. This all in front of the whole town of course.
That’s the opening of act two. Act one shows the relatively calm ordinary life before the shit hit the fan. A real art movie, it’s excellent. You could prolly find it at Blockbusters. Lots of Korean movies too, of course, but a little hard to come by state side.
Yeah but, I don’t like to dwell too much on being victims, since it’s already been two generations ago and it is but one century out of 5,000 years. (And it was nothing compared to three years of war where almost every city was completely destroyed by armies of both sides traversing the peninsula.)
Besides, it’s embarrassing to keep playing the victim card all the time like the the few well meaning but still nutty Jewish people who use the Holocaust as the answer and justification for anything and everything involving Jews.
The really funny part is seeing how white people react. In America, where race defines you most of all, Koreans are lumped with everybody else from the continent as “Asian.”
So it confuses the hell out of them when one group start bitching at another. All we have here in US is Black, White, and maybe Latinos!
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 4:04 am | #
MAN! I had liquorice coming out of my nose after I read the last panel. *phew*
*blink* Woah, that’s a lot of text, and i actually read it all. Anyway, allow me to, as par, comment on something totally unrelated.
Anyone else notice the lack of the yellow marking on Hyung’s cheek? I think this is H version 3. Also, version 1 had one eye, 2 had the chinese mark for 2 on his face…will H 3 have a third testacle?
I wasn’t playing any “card”, victim or otherwise. Just one random thought leading into another. But whatever, you’re gonna think what you think. Neat to know you can be so emotionally-detached about people being skinned alive though, Korean or otherwise.
Zhang Yimou used to be my favorite director, but after seeing his more recent films lately I’ve decided he’s really slipped off his rocker, much like Schulz did in the 80s. Before “To Live” though, he never missed a beat and was the most formidable director alive. Yeah, Red Sorgum… probably his most underrated film. Loved that one.
>BUT DAMMIT! Couldn’t you have said the Germans or something like that? A nation of people that is mutually hated and distrusted by all?
That’s such a Western(oh, wait, WORLD) view. When I was living in Korea, there was a popular “Nazi” themed bar Korea, people drinking happily surrounded my Nazi peraphenalia and photos of the Third reich marching down streets or burying jews. I remember a cartoon Hitler being quite prominent in advertising all over Asia. It’s hard to feel the true impact of something when you’re halfway across the world. Which is exactly why it’s hard to feel the true impact the Japanse had in Asia over here. The Japanese ARE the Germans in Asia. Hell, I’d go as far as to say the Japanese are far more hated in Asia as than are Germans in the western world today. Actually, it’s quite a funny dichotonomy–the older generation detest the japanese, and the younger generation idolize and emulate modern japanese culture(at least on a pop level. Actually, except maybe for Korea. Did you know Korean kids are actually TOUGHT to hate the Japanese in schools as part of every day curiculum? One of my cousins was ostracized in school cause she liked a Japanese band. Although even in Korea they can’t get enough of–and emulate–Japanese comics and animation.)
But I know you were just joking, Josh, just nitpicking…
DKK | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 5:57 am | #
Oh, and I guess it’s very possible that schools in other asian countries teach their kids to hate the Japanese, Korea’s just the only country I have first-hand experience and knowlege with.
Anyone from China or some other asian country know first-hand?
DKK | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 6:05 am | #
…
I still think he’s jealous of the cool threads the Ninja get to tool around in…
Wet Jimmy | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 6:28 am | #
Cool threads?
It’s a robe. They’re all robes!
Everybody wore robes!
>I wasn’t playing any “card”, victim or otherwise. Just one random thought leading into another. But whatever, you’re gonna think what you think.
Nah, it’s not a direct response to you or anything. Just a general observation about life.
“Emperor” (a joke of title since they’ve never had an Empire to begin with and one which only the Westerner fell for) Hirohito should have been by all rights hung for his war crimes. He was in the thick of it all, the executions, atrocities, including Pearl Harbor. The generals took the fall and MacArthur went with to stabilize the country as fast as possible (in time to run for president of US, mind you).
And you can bet your ass he got some royal compensation for saving the little runt. It’s was like letting Hitler go and resume his title for the “sake” of the Germany. Now his brats run around the Palace, aping the British Royal/Celebrity BS. OF course, I already do have an irrational hatred of all Monarchies and other such undeserved, unearned people of power. (Like Dubya, for instance.)
>Neat to know you can be so emotionally-detached about people being skinned alive though, Korean or otherwise.
Of course I’m being emotionally detached, I’m sitting on my fat ass not getting skinned or skinning anyone.
Our capacity to cause pain is only exceeded by ability to feel it.
What can we do? It’s history. You wanna grab some Japanese kid with dyed blonde hair skin him alive? The current generation of Jap. kids are the biggest pussies on the planet. Koreans may be taught to hate them and still get drafted to the military, but these kids are taught to despise nationalism and worship America, their conquerer and all things that flow out of her. It a pathetic colony. So is Korea.
Maybe after USA backs out, in about ~80 years. Then, we can settle scores and kill each other again like the good old days.
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 7:19 am | #
well, look at it this way: Hitler died, and Japan got nuked. A country’s leader on one hand, and a few cities’ populations for a few generations on the other.
…I hate to sound heartless, but I fail to see why Pearl Harbor is brought up. It was a military installation, not a mall. Of course they’re gonna hit it. And of course they’re gonna do it without formally declaring war; that’s what you do when you’re stuck on an island trying to defeat this enormous landmass with endless resources…
…haven’t you ever played Civilization?
Deus | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 8:37 am | #
Ever see 55 days in Peking? Cool movie. All the europeans and americans and the japanese fight off hordes of Chinese coolies who want to rape Ava Gardner.
It’s like a prequel to Starship troopers only without the giant nuclear fart bugs. I love it.
Well, of course they look like nerds. You’re looking at the guys who wanted their scholarships from the military. They weren’t expecting to actually get deployed…
Deus | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:00 am | #
>And of course they’re gonna do it without formally declaring war
The surprise attack. The point was he knew about it and planned along with the generals, that is he was part of the military and not a powerless symbolic figure, which was the excuse they used to get him off.
Civilian lives can not be exchanged for war criminals. Having captured Sadam, would you let him go with his title of President and all his billions since thousands of Iraqis died instead? You can say shit like that because Japan’s been America’s docile bitch since then. Mercy is the winner’s prerogative.
See? I’m taking obviously facetious comments seriously. Couple of more replies and I’ll be arguing to invade Iran and nuke Syria… Goddamn war threads.
I’m the one saying it’s been over a long time ago!
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Oh, on a side note:
Couple of years ago, my bro & I were watching some movie and they played the “Pearl Harbor” trailer. It was so syrupy sweet, so schmaltzy with Michael Bay’s filtered Kodak precious moments crap, near the end when the Zeros approached I raised both my hand up and shouted, “BANZAI!!!”
As my echo faded in the dark theater, there was a very long period of uncomfortable silence. Then some Latina shouted back, “Shut the Fuck up!”
Beautiful moment, really.
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:08 am | #
>fight off hordes of Chinese coolies who want to rape Ava Gardner.
I think I saw that, you sure it wasn’t a Zulu hoard?
Everybody’s always goin’ after da’ White women! Quite the magical creatures, they are.
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:21 am | #
now, now, Mr. Kim. We’re not arguing whether Hirohito was involved in the military’s actions; we’re arguing whether Pearl Harbor was really so atrocious or just a strategic maneuver seen from the winner’s perspective.
On a side note, that really is absolutely beautiful. I would’ve done the same, were I remotely Asian, but alas, I’m actually from that OTHER island nation. The tropical one, I mean. The one that gave Kennedy all the trouble with the missiles and the Russians and the thing.
Deus | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:28 am | #
Exactly, we ain’t arguing shit. I was using Pearl Harbor as part of his miliatary involvement. There were plenty of war crimes without citing “The Day of Infamy.”
Stinking Cubans…
I want to say something biting and witty, but have no idea what kind of Cuban you are.
The only mental picture I’m getting is Cuban soldiers riding bicycles in a parade due to gas rationing.
And of course the three hour documentry/drama/agiprop “Yo Soy Cuba.”
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:46 am | #
Okay, Japan’s had a sketchy past, but so have a lot of countries. I still believe that Bushido and the Samurai were one of the most unique things in the word at that time… And I like video games.
Now see, the funny thing about that is, I’m actually the most hygenically-oriented amongst my gringo friends…
I’m actually just a poser; when your parents escaped your own culture 20-some-odd years before you were born, it’s hard to get attached to it. So I pick and choose, forgoing the bravado of the Americans and the machismo of the hispanics for the modesty of the Japanese.
…that is, until Castro dies. Then I’m all for hanging in the homeland.
Deus | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 10:03 am | #
Hyung, I have a question…how much do you actually know about Japan and it’s current culture from experience? What exactly are you basing your sweeping generlizations off of? I mean, you’re not just saying all of this from, oh, one three-day trip to Japan or something, are you? Or even having read some book about it that supposedly was top-notch and told the whole truth, but in reality was just some skewed Western view of Japan as “that wacky nation!”. Because then I would respectfully say shit down and shut up, because right now it seems like all of what you are saying from Japan comes from brief and incomplete glimpses of the country given to you by mass media. But, of course, you’re Korean, so you must be allowed to make these generalizations…
….He said “shit down.” Heh. Oh well, I have nothing to add to the “age old hatreds” debate, since my heritage has me raised to hate a whole race of people while I reap the benefits of “Affirmative Action”. I hat the program, btw. I hate having to sit next to a guy with the IQ of a raisin just because he was the next smartest black guy…mean while a great intellectual was passed over ’cause he’s not a poor unfortunate minority. Sometimes I think I was born into the wrong race, or maybe that’s the stereotypes talking and there are others like me who don’t sag, wear gang colors, and listen to DMX or some other misc. rap artist.
I also find it funny that Jesus probably looked like Osama Bin Laden (minus the towel), and less like that Catholic white dude.
Robes? I’ve personally watched Enter the Ninja about a thousand times (well known to be the most historically accurate treatise on the art of Ninjustu) and I didn’t see a single robe.
First off: General comments of approval for your comic, always wanted to say I loved your work, just never figured I’d say them.
Secondly: CrazyKimchi.com reminds me of The Parking Lot is Full in some ways, probably in that it’s unapologetically biased. From what I’ve seen around me and from personal experience, bias is considered a terrible thing to have as people are created equal and everyone should have the same rights, etc and so on. So, I just want to say keep it up.
Third: Thanks for the history post, I’m not big on history myself, I’ve never learned enough to actually find myself drawn into it. So, it’s always nice to learn something.
Really, that’s everything I’ve got, just alot of ass kissing I suppose.
Oh, and guy above who said that Mr. Kim is really just an unreliable fount of information, well, maybe, and you could always be poisoned by your cheerios. I’ll take the words of entertainers over the words of rulers any day.
>And of course they’re gonna do it without formally declaring war
Um, They had, plus they told us americans that they were going to attack every time they did. Part of the primitive fallbacks of their underdeveloped culture.
I can’t help but like anime or manga, but there are just so many things about their culture that are screwed up. The thing I hate most is how they treat their women like shit and the women somehow appreciate it.
>they treat their women like shit and the women somehow appreciate it.
“They?” It’s just the way male-female relationships developed in most traditional agrarian-based patriarchal cultures. That is, the world before 1960’s.
It’s also naive in thinking the power lies only in the one shouting the loudest.
>Because then I would respectfully say shit down and shut up, because right now it seems like all of what you are saying from Japan comes from brief and incomplete glimpses of the country given to you by mass media. But, of course, you’re Korean, so you must be allowed to make these generalizations…
What, you don’t completely believe me when I say things like, “they’re complete pussies?” I’m indignant!
Of course they’re generalizations, they’re my generalizations as a Korean, an Asian and an American. No, I’m not Japanese, and this isn’t an ethnographic study or evidence for trial. Aside from obviously snide remarks and jabs, it’s what most Koreans feel about their island neighbor. The rest would shoot them if they could. It sound absurd, but it really is the clearest example of the punch line to the comic, the petty almost congenital predejucies we all posses against each other. They’re racial in the States, but tend to be national elsewhere.
And I’m more then aware of the limited Western portray of Asia, the sad dance between Carnival freak show awe and outright gullibility, swallowing the shoddiest lies as long it perpetuates and buys into already existing assumptions and marketable stereotypes. In US, international coverage usually comes in tow flavors, either Bunch of brown people killed each other or See the wacky foreigner! They’re so kooky!
No, I don’t particullary hate anyone. I don’t wish harm on the current royal family, as children obviously should not be punished for their parents’ sins. (I’m not big on constitutional monarchies in general, I am a stanch Republican in that sense.)
>how much traffic do you get from .jp users, and how much do you expect to retain after this
It’s a silly questions to ask someone who routinely makes fun of the current Pres, no? I think there’s one or two ips that come from .jp, I’m pretty sure one of them is the cartoonist “Hard,” of Sexy Losers. Don’t worry, I’ll draw some fuzzy bunnies or someting.
>when the planet is mine your death will be swift and painless
We Koreans eat a lot of Kimchi and are thus hard to Kill
>I still haven’t seen a Hugo Weaving cameo in this thread so Hyung’s use of cool glasses do not make him the One.
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 3:28 am | #
Where can I find one of those?
Lord Raa | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 4:24 am | #
>Of course they’re generalizations, they’re my generalizations as a Korean, an Asian and an American.
Well, I can respect that, but my point really was: is it good to publish an article fueled by mere generalizations and full of obvious bias? It’s well-written and interesting, but I’ve come to understand that the best articles should be free of bias - perhaps it’s a personal thing. And yes, I realize the majority of news articles are not as objective as they should be, but the “everyone else does it, so it must be ok!” philosophy doesn’t fly. What exactly WOULD be the point of publishing such an article on Comixpedia - it seems just like a rant on how one culture, namely the one you identify with, views another. That’s great, but not exactly relevant.
I don’t mind when your comic has such views because, hey, it’s YOUR comic…your space to talk and say what you feel, and it doesn’t have to apologize, or even have any bearing on -anything-. But if you’re writing an article to be published on another venue, then that’s another thing…
…gah, you know what, what does it even matter? It’s your article, do what you want with it.
-Misha
Misha | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 1:34 pm | #
Well, my mistake. It’s a column. That’s it the crackpot funny kind. I think the article thing threw us off.
I never meant to imply any journalistic standard whatsoever, just an some opinionated riffs. And a draft at that that won’t make the cut as it really doesn’t have anything to do with the topic.
Hm… nationalism.. funny thing, how people hate other people because of who their parents are…
And it makes the hating so simple, no reason to actually bother about what that person is like. “He’s a Serb, they’re all murderers” / “He’s Croatian, they’re all dogs” / “He’s from South-Of-Slovenia, they’r all barbarians” / “He’s Slovene, they’re all two-faced assholes” / “His ancestors killed my ancestors”
So simple.
c-nut | Email | Homepage | 06.23.03 - 7:31 am | #
damn… sorry for the double post… the net’s so slow I thought I had missed the button the first time…
c-nut | Email | Homepage | 06.23.03 - 7:34 am | #
Jesus, does everyone just tune me out when i speak, nowadays?
What’s with all this hate? I think that Japan has got to be one of China’s greatest inventions! …Well, they were pretty cool up until the disembowlings, starvation, rape and weapons testing we saw during WWII. …Naw, scratch that.
December 2nd, 2006 at 4:53 am
hey now…it’s not the Japs’ fault. It’s part of their culture. Did you know that, until the early 19th century, they were disallowed from building large sea-going vessels by a governmental decree?
….but seriously, the whole place really needs to deepen their gene pool…
Deus | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 10:09 pm | #
cool shades
DFG | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 10:15 pm | #
Equal? Just? Fair? Dude, did you ever HAVE brothers and sisters?
Madurai | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 10:41 pm | #
I didn’t see the Koreans hole off the Mongol hordes! *shakes fist*
Nice Neo Shades
ClicheMan | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 10:43 pm | #
yes, that’s it… hole them off… i’m a dumbass…
ClicheMan | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 10:44 pm | #
*removes 1/2 of the shades
there, that’s better.
Skizotoro | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 10:45 pm | #
Oh! The hypocrisy!
Rapscallion | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 11:30 pm | #
Well, I remember that the last time the Japanese tried to “deepen” their gene pool, their cities were leveled by napalms and nukes. So who’s restraining whom?
namelesscoward(with an ip#) | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 11:33 pm | #
Yes! Nuke their jappy asses!
Demodokos | Email | Homepage | 06.20.03 - 11:59 pm | #
Ah just save time and blow up the earth.
Sartan | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 12:32 am | #
He’s just upset because you never see any cool Korean martial arts flicks… China has kick-ass monks, Japan has kick ass Ninja.. What does Korea have (other than “the bomb”)?
Wet Jimmy | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 12:34 am | #
Oh, wait. Doesn’t Korea have that dude from Best of the Best?
Wet Jimmy | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 12:34 am | #
Woo! Equality for everyone! Nukes and Death all around!
or hugs, whichever you prefer…
Absentia | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 12:34 am | #
No no no, you have it all wrong. The Japs are our friends! They make anime! Their women are cute! They make an effort to be more like America! This is a culture that obviously needs to stand alongside the rest of the world for all time.
Now, the FRENCH : that’s a different story.
P.S. The glasses look very nice, but unless I see Hugo Weaving make a cameo in Crazy Kimchi I will not believe in you as the true One.
Benares | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 1:59 am | #
>He’s just upset because you never see any cool Korean martial arts flicks… China has kick-ass monks, Japan has kick ass Ninja.. What does Korea have
Everybody has monks. Ninja is just a Jap. word for “Spy” before Frank Miller made it so popular during the eighties. There’s lots of Korean Martial Art movies of late. There hasn’t been a lot of Samurai movies though.
All the East Asian Martial Arts have some connection with the original Shao-Lin monks of 4th century AD. Whose founder Bodi-darma was an Indian monk who brought the mediation and fighting techniques of Kalarippayattu to China.
The sword making techniques and the sword makers that has become synonymous in with the Samurai flicks all came from Shilla Kingdom, when Yamato was the boondocks, equivalent to nomadic Vandals to Rome or Greece (and, of course they were sacked by the barbarians, as well.)
But the real reason Koreans express anti-Jap sentiment is two-fold.
One is obviously when Japan, newly industrialized after their successful pro-monarchist revolution, invaded and colonized Corea (it was changed to “K”orea, believe it or not, because Jap. authorities didn’t want Corea in front of Japan in the Western dictionaries.). This is no different then your Irish uncle bitching about the “bloody English” or a Mexican reminding a gringo why California is entirely filled with Spanish names.
A second systemic factor is largely overlooked by Koreans themselves. Until the mid-nineties, Korea was ruled by de-facto Juntas, with all the regular hallmarks of coups, tanks in the streets every decade or two, and regular jailing of dissenters and activists (with full support of the US, of course). Anti-communist propaganda was kept at the highest levels well into the nineties. And to keep up the nationalistic fervor, the anit-Japanese sentiments were always whipped up as much as possible. (Never mind that the two counties share identical economic systems and are virtually run by the same few dozen corporations)
It’s the same formula, keep the people paranoid, keep them righteously angry. It works for Korea, it works for Isreal/Palastine and it works here, in post 9-11 USA.
But the thing about Japan is…
Being considered barely civilized barbarians basically until 19th century (that’s ~2,000 years), Japan has historically had a massive inferiority complex towards Korea and China. When they lost WWII, during the occupation, they decide to be “Asia” to the Americans, in turn the West. Since then, for the last fifty years, Japan has had a monopoly on Asian culture, defining, altering, adjusting, the continental history. They can hardly ignore China, but they do try to omit Korea when ever possible. Seriously, they just omit the entire country, where they got most of their civilization from. (China is a vastly different culture from K & J, btw)
[Continued...]
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 2:15 am | #
Of course, not like they had any competition. Civil war in Korea, China, fighting a proxy war with US there, wasn’t even recognized until Nixon, then Vietnam, Hong Kong is a hodge podge of refugees, a multinational British port.
So Americans go to Asia, they go to Tokyo. See tea ceremony, do Ekibono, laugh at how these short yellow Japanese are just like humans, but kooky and different. Until it became a economic power house, a distant electronic mecca for the video game generation, the only people who cared were the odd mystics like Allen Watts doing their Zen thing or the peculiar Gaijins who were better being “Japanese” then most of the post-war inhabitants of the islands, who already had full time jobs living in the 20th century and were too busy making a living to practice Bushido (!).
Of course most Japanese don’t know and couldn’t care less about any of these things. They”ve been busy churning out electronic crap for American consumers since the fifties, with their kids consuming Beatles, blue jeans, McDonalds in return. One of the reason why Anime and Manga is so popular on either side of the Pacific is that both of the post-war generations reflect in themselves the same rootless, ahistorical, media saturated, consumer oriented pop culture, the de-facto culture of 21th century Earth.
PS This a draft of a column I’m writing for Comixpedia. But I’m not sure how I can relate all this to webcomics so I’ll save this a separate rant or something.
PPS No one actually gives a shit that much. For example: My old man loves to bitch about the Japanese, but loves the music, the old time Jap. music he heard from his childhood, etc…
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 2:16 am | #
Has my mom been talking to you? haha…
Seriously though, you tell ‘em, HS.
I’m surprised at how lax your dad is toward the japanese listening to their music and all though; my mom has such a blinding hatraed for them, she has nothing but venom to say for the people or anything related to Japan. She’ll never watch a japanese movie or listen to their music, and she swears she will never set foot in japan. She’d rather die. I think she’d disown me if I ever brought home a japanese girlfriend. (Well, first she’d die of shock that I actually brought home a girlfriend, but that’s beside the point)
I ususally shake my head and try to point out how racist she’s being, but at the same time, I really can’t blame her for how she feels. I can’t imagine what it must be like to be born in the immediate aftermath of something like the Korean war. And know–and see with your own eyes–the horrific, inhuman, atrocities your oppressors have committed on your father and mother and fellow countrymen.
I judge everyone individually and hey, what the hell did these young japanese kids ever do to me?, but when I read about how the japanese military made Korean friends skin each other alive, or how they kept Korean women as “comfort women”, gang-raping them on a regular basis as causually as you would go play video games(which the Japanese government still refuse to apologize for), I have to admit, the amount of rage and sadness I feel scares me.
Yeah yeah, I know I know, you heartless bastards, these things happen in all wars and all opressed nations blah blah blah, but it’s hard to feel so impartial and distant when it’s your own people, your own flesh and blood.
DKK | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:16 am | #
Dude. That was seriously cool. It kinda moved me.
*hears the cries of ‘f@g!’ and ‘communist!’ and coughs*
Then again, as a product of a long-since authocratic State my nationalistic feelings are well ingrained in my way of thinking. Even if I understand that those feelings kept the PRI on top of the lot for longer than the CCCP’s Communist Party.
Thus I admit I’m a hypocrite. Or at best, confused. I long for a day when all humankind can be together in peace like the UN-Flag-in-the-background-speech expressed, yet, for example I still resent my American brothers for what how they raped my country back in the late 1840s.
How can we hope for global unity when we are such a fractured, fscked up family?
And now, for a ligther note: Baby Skaters! (http://www.sonypictures.com/tv/shows/ripleys/ database/assets/baby_skater.jpg)
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Thing I learned today: So that’s why we call it Corea in Spanish…
Grammar Notes: Ekibono=Ikebana? Also, in the comic you meant ‘Ark’ as in Noah’s or ‘Park’ as in I-messed-up-and-missed-the-P?
Rivers | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:46 am | #
Adendum: How to relate the rant to comics? I dunno… maybe making a point of how comics (both web-based or printed) are part of this rootless, ahistorical, media saturated, consumer oriented pop culture we are living in?
Rivers | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:49 am | #
As Neo would say, “Woah”. That was educational. cool.
>It’s the same formula, keep the people paranoid, keep them righteously angry. It works for Korea, it works for Isreal/Palastine and it works here, in post 9-11 USA.
Too damn right, police state here we come.
CrazyDave | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:53 am | #
Dammit Hyung, my wife is Japanese.
There’s nothing wrong with Japanese people! Sure a sense of racism against foreigners exists in the more rural areas of Japan, but its not THAT bad.
Still, funny. BUT DAMMIT! Couldn’t you have said the Germans or something like that? A nation of people that is mutually hated and distrusted by all?
Canada. Canadians would be more apt for that..
Josh | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:54 am | #
Ah yes, the “Skinning Alive” one!
That’s a great way to subdue the population.
You “invite” the whole village and choose a couple…
It’s one of a long line of ways to keep control, kill several people as a example and the rest follow! Napoleon use to have his army pick up 20 random people off the street and have them executed in the town square. And of course the Germans… forgetaboutit!
The Zang Yimou [great Chinese non-kungfu director] movie “Red Sorghum” has a scene where the occupation Japanese Army captures this gang leader and forces one of his underlings to skin him alive. The first one takes the butcher knife, thinks a bit and charges at the soldier and gets shot. Then the Sergeant shoves the knife at this feeble minded guy and makes him do it. He’s crying, “Sorry Boss, sorry Boss…” while the leader is cursing the Jap. soldiers out. This all in front of the whole town of course.
That’s the opening of act two. Act one shows the relatively calm ordinary life before the shit hit the fan. A real art movie, it’s excellent. You could prolly find it at Blockbusters. Lots of Korean movies too, of course, but a little hard to come by state side.
Yeah but, I don’t like to dwell too much on being victims, since it’s already been two generations ago and it is but one century out of 5,000 years. (And it was nothing compared to three years of war where almost every city was completely destroyed by armies of both sides traversing the peninsula.)
Besides, it’s embarrassing to keep playing the victim card all the time like the the few well meaning but still nutty Jewish people who use the Holocaust as the answer and justification for anything and everything involving Jews.
The really funny part is seeing how white people react. In America, where race defines you most of all, Koreans are lumped with everybody else from the continent as “Asian.”
So it confuses the hell out of them when one group start bitching at another. All we have here in US is Black, White, and maybe Latinos!
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 4:04 am | #
MAN! I had liquorice coming out of my nose after I read the last panel. *phew*
Freelance | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 4:05 am | #
The japs are like the english (Must be an island nation thing) polite, diffident, artistically talented imperialistic psychopathic xenophobes
Also: Tea.
Nestor | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 4:42 am | #
*blink* Woah, that’s a lot of text, and i actually read it all. Anyway, allow me to, as par, comment on something totally unrelated.
Anyone else notice the lack of the yellow marking on Hyung’s cheek? I think this is H version 3. Also, version 1 had one eye, 2 had the chinese mark for 2 on his face…will H 3 have a third testacle?
Neo Kojiro | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 4:48 am | #
I wasn’t playing any “card”, victim or otherwise. Just one random thought leading into another. But whatever, you’re gonna think what you think. Neat to know you can be so emotionally-detached about people being skinned alive though, Korean or otherwise.
Zhang Yimou used to be my favorite director, but after seeing his more recent films lately I’ve decided he’s really slipped off his rocker, much like Schulz did in the 80s. Before “To Live” though, he never missed a beat and was the most formidable director alive. Yeah, Red Sorgum… probably his most underrated film. Loved that one.
>BUT DAMMIT! Couldn’t you have said the Germans or something like that? A nation of people that is mutually hated and distrusted by all?
That’s such a Western(oh, wait, WORLD) view. When I was living in Korea, there was a popular “Nazi” themed bar Korea, people drinking happily surrounded my Nazi peraphenalia and photos of the Third reich marching down streets or burying jews. I remember a cartoon Hitler being quite prominent in advertising all over Asia. It’s hard to feel the true impact of something when you’re halfway across the world. Which is exactly why it’s hard to feel the true impact the Japanse had in Asia over here. The Japanese ARE the Germans in Asia. Hell, I’d go as far as to say the Japanese are far more hated in Asia as than are Germans in the western world today. Actually, it’s quite a funny dichotonomy–the older generation detest the japanese, and the younger generation idolize and emulate modern japanese culture(at least on a pop level. Actually, except maybe for Korea. Did you know Korean kids are actually TOUGHT to hate the Japanese in schools as part of every day curiculum? One of my cousins was ostracized in school cause she liked a Japanese band. Although even in Korea they can’t get enough of–and emulate–Japanese comics and animation.)
But I know you were just joking, Josh, just nitpicking…
DKK | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 5:57 am | #
Oh, and I guess it’s very possible that schools in other asian countries teach their kids to hate the Japanese, Korea’s just the only country I have first-hand experience and knowlege with.
Anyone from China or some other asian country know first-hand?
DKK | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 6:05 am | #
…
I still think he’s jealous of the cool threads the Ninja get to tool around in…
Wet Jimmy | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 6:28 am | #
Cool threads?
It’s a robe. They’re all robes!
Everybody wore robes!
>I wasn’t playing any “card”, victim or otherwise. Just one random thought leading into another. But whatever, you’re gonna think what you think.
Nah, it’s not a direct response to you or anything. Just a general observation about life.
“Emperor” (a joke of title since they’ve never had an Empire to begin with and one which only the Westerner fell for) Hirohito should have been by all rights hung for his war crimes. He was in the thick of it all, the executions, atrocities, including Pearl Harbor. The generals took the fall and MacArthur went with to stabilize the country as fast as possible (in time to run for president of US, mind you).
And you can bet your ass he got some royal compensation for saving the little runt. It’s was like letting Hitler go and resume his title for the “sake” of the Germany. Now his brats run around the Palace, aping the British Royal/Celebrity BS. OF course, I already do have an irrational hatred of all Monarchies and other such undeserved, unearned people of power. (Like Dubya, for instance.)
>Neat to know you can be so emotionally-detached about people being skinned alive though, Korean or otherwise.
Of course I’m being emotionally detached, I’m sitting on my fat ass not getting skinned or skinning anyone.
Our capacity to cause pain is only exceeded by ability to feel it.
What can we do? It’s history. You wanna grab some Japanese kid with dyed blonde hair skin him alive? The current generation of Jap. kids are the biggest pussies on the planet. Koreans may be taught to hate them and still get drafted to the military, but these kids are taught to despise nationalism and worship America, their conquerer and all things that flow out of her. It a pathetic colony. So is Korea.
Maybe after USA backs out, in about ~80 years. Then, we can settle scores and kill each other again like the good old days.
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 7:19 am | #
well, look at it this way: Hitler died, and Japan got nuked. A country’s leader on one hand, and a few cities’ populations for a few generations on the other.
…I hate to sound heartless, but I fail to see why Pearl Harbor is brought up. It was a military installation, not a mall. Of course they’re gonna hit it. And of course they’re gonna do it without formally declaring war; that’s what you do when you’re stuck on an island trying to defeat this enormous landmass with endless resources…
…haven’t you ever played Civilization?
Deus | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 8:37 am | #
Ever see 55 days in Peking? Cool movie. All the europeans and americans and the japanese fight off hordes of Chinese coolies who want to rape Ava Gardner.
It’s like a prequel to Starship troopers only without the giant nuclear fart bugs. I love it.
Nestor | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 8:54 am | #
Also, many of the Marines in the gulf war coverage looked like nerds.
You should not underestimate the japanese because they are so nerdish. Nerds are cruel and intelligent.
Will you do a comic about Nerd Marines?
Nestor | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 8:56 am | #
Well, of course they look like nerds. You’re looking at the guys who wanted their scholarships from the military. They weren’t expecting to actually get deployed…
Deus | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:00 am | #
>And of course they’re gonna do it without formally declaring war
The surprise attack. The point was he knew about it and planned along with the generals, that is he was part of the military and not a powerless symbolic figure, which was the excuse they used to get him off.
Civilian lives can not be exchanged for war criminals. Having captured Sadam, would you let him go with his title of President and all his billions since thousands of Iraqis died instead? You can say shit like that because Japan’s been America’s docile bitch since then. Mercy is the winner’s prerogative.
See? I’m taking obviously facetious comments seriously. Couple of more replies and I’ll be arguing to invade Iran and nuke Syria… Goddamn war threads.
I’m the one saying it’s been over a long time ago!
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Oh, on a side note:
Couple of years ago, my bro & I were watching some movie and they played the “Pearl Harbor” trailer. It was so syrupy sweet, so schmaltzy with Michael Bay’s filtered Kodak precious moments crap, near the end when the Zeros approached I raised both my hand up and shouted, “BANZAI!!!”
As my echo faded in the dark theater, there was a very long period of uncomfortable silence. Then some Latina shouted back, “Shut the Fuck up!”
Beautiful moment, really.
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:08 am | #
>fight off hordes of Chinese coolies who want to rape Ava Gardner.
I think I saw that, you sure it wasn’t a Zulu hoard?
Everybody’s always goin’ after da’ White women! Quite the magical creatures, they are.
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:21 am | #
now, now, Mr. Kim. We’re not arguing whether Hirohito was involved in the military’s actions; we’re arguing whether Pearl Harbor was really so atrocious or just a strategic maneuver seen from the winner’s perspective.
On a side note, that really is absolutely beautiful. I would’ve done the same, were I remotely Asian, but alas, I’m actually from that OTHER island nation. The tropical one, I mean. The one that gave Kennedy all the trouble with the missiles and the Russians and the thing.
Deus | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:28 am | #
Exactly, we ain’t arguing shit. I was using Pearl Harbor as part of his miliatary involvement. There were plenty of war crimes without citing “The Day of Infamy.”
Stinking Cubans…
I want to say something biting and witty, but have no idea what kind of Cuban you are.
The only mental picture I’m getting is Cuban soldiers riding bicycles in a parade due to gas rationing.
And of course the three hour documentry/drama/agiprop “Yo Soy Cuba.”
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:46 am | #
Okay, Japan’s had a sketchy past, but so have a lot of countries. I still believe that Bushido and the Samurai were one of the most unique things in the word at that time… And I like video games.
ClicheMan | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:52 am | #
Dude, why can’t I spell lately?
ClicheMan | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:53 am | #
Who cares ’bout Japan… WE’RE ALL INBRED!!!!
Colrain Mafia | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:54 am | #
>Stinking Cubans…
Now see, the funny thing about that is, I’m actually the most hygenically-oriented amongst my gringo friends…
I’m actually just a poser; when your parents escaped your own culture 20-some-odd years before you were born, it’s hard to get attached to it. So I pick and choose, forgoing the bravado of the Americans and the machismo of the hispanics for the modesty of the Japanese.
…that is, until Castro dies. Then I’m all for hanging in the homeland.
Deus | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 10:03 am | #
Hyung, I have a question…how much do you actually know about Japan and it’s current culture from experience? What exactly are you basing your sweeping generlizations off of? I mean, you’re not just saying all of this from, oh, one three-day trip to Japan or something, are you? Or even having read some book about it that supposedly was top-notch and told the whole truth, but in reality was just some skewed Western view of Japan as “that wacky nation!”. Because then I would respectfully say shit down and shut up, because right now it seems like all of what you are saying from Japan comes from brief and incomplete glimpses of the country given to you by mass media. But, of course, you’re Korean, so you must be allowed to make these generalizations…
Misha | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 11:11 am | #
rawr…
Joe | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 12:28 pm | #
….He said “shit down.” Heh. Oh well, I have nothing to add to the “age old hatreds” debate, since my heritage has me raised to hate a whole race of people while I reap the benefits of “Affirmative Action”. I hat the program, btw. I hate having to sit next to a guy with the IQ of a raisin just because he was the next smartest black guy…mean while a great intellectual was passed over ’cause he’s not a poor unfortunate minority. Sometimes I think I was born into the wrong race, or maybe that’s the stereotypes talking and there are others like me who don’t sag, wear gang colors, and listen to DMX or some other misc. rap artist.
I also find it funny that Jesus probably looked like Osama Bin Laden (minus the towel), and less like that Catholic white dude.
Adhesive | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 1:28 pm | #
heh yea…
shit down… Heh… wonder if that was a mispell or..?
ClicheMan | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 2:16 pm | #
Yeah, we’ve all committed atrocities over the years.
Some are moral (the Crusades, small pox infected blankets) and some are cultural (Spice Girls, Celine Dion, Jackass).
There is not one nation on Earth that is innocent.
Lord Raa | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:00 pm | #
Alas, even the principality of Sealand has known violence and strife
I cry a tear for mankind.
*Drip*
Nestor | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:22 pm | #
Today’s comic confused me, somewhat. I’m half Japanese, while the other half is a bunch of other stuff… Lucky me…
Hey, man, are you gonna make some Crazykimchi link banner things? Eh?!
LRH | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:39 pm | #
Yes, Hyung, how much traffic do you get from .jp users, and how much do you expect to retain after this
Nestor | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 3:53 pm | #
Mr Kim… I love your comic… when the planet is mine your death will be swift and painless
Country Rat | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 4:00 pm | #
okay.. okay.. I read all that, very insightful and everything.. but.. chinese director.. not kung-fu? What’s the point!?
Skizotoro | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 4:14 pm | #
*DFG stabs Skizotoro in the glutimus maximus with a rather large hat pin.*
There a point. Happy now?
DFG | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 6:11 pm | #
Ninjas…HA
hahahahahaha
If you want to know where the whole ninja crap came from read “created the destroyer”
that novel is where the hollywood myth of ninjas started.
if you read that you’d see one thing.
Ninjas are KOREAN.
RantinAn | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 6:39 pm | #
Robes? I’ve personally watched Enter the Ninja about a thousand times (well known to be the most historically accurate treatise on the art of Ninjustu) and I didn’t see a single robe.
It’s all martial arts envy
Wet Jimmy | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 9:53 pm | #
First off: General comments of approval for your comic, always wanted to say I loved your work, just never figured I’d say them.
Secondly: CrazyKimchi.com reminds me of The Parking Lot is Full in some ways, probably in that it’s unapologetically biased. From what I’ve seen around me and from personal experience, bias is considered a terrible thing to have as people are created equal and everyone should have the same rights, etc and so on. So, I just want to say keep it up.
Third: Thanks for the history post, I’m not big on history myself, I’ve never learned enough to actually find myself drawn into it. So, it’s always nice to learn something.
Really, that’s everything I’ve got, just alot of ass kissing I suppose.
Oh, and guy above who said that Mr. Kim is really just an unreliable fount of information, well, maybe, and you could always be poisoned by your cheerios. I’ll take the words of entertainers over the words of rulers any day.
Detetsu | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 11:04 pm | #
>And of course they’re gonna do it without formally declaring war
Um, They had, plus they told us americans that they were going to attack every time they did. Part of the primitive fallbacks of their underdeveloped culture.
I can’t help but like anime or manga, but there are just so many things about their culture that are screwed up. The thing I hate most is how they treat their women like shit and the women somehow appreciate it.
gordy | Email | Homepage | 06.21.03 - 11:49 pm | #
I still haven’t seen a Hugo Weaving cameo in this thread so Hyung’s use of cool glasses do not make him the One.
Benares | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 1:02 am | #
>they treat their women like shit and the women somehow appreciate it.
“They?” It’s just the way male-female relationships developed in most traditional agrarian-based patriarchal cultures. That is, the world before 1960’s.
It’s also naive in thinking the power lies only in the one shouting the loudest.
>Because then I would respectfully say shit down and shut up, because right now it seems like all of what you are saying from Japan comes from brief and incomplete glimpses of the country given to you by mass media. But, of course, you’re Korean, so you must be allowed to make these generalizations…
What, you don’t completely believe me when I say things like, “they’re complete pussies?” I’m indignant!
Of course they’re generalizations, they’re my generalizations as a Korean, an Asian and an American. No, I’m not Japanese, and this isn’t an ethnographic study or evidence for trial. Aside from obviously snide remarks and jabs, it’s what most Koreans feel about their island neighbor. The rest would shoot them if they could. It sound absurd, but it really is the clearest example of the punch line to the comic, the petty almost congenital predejucies we all posses against each other. They’re racial in the States, but tend to be national elsewhere.
And I’m more then aware of the limited Western portray of Asia, the sad dance between Carnival freak show awe and outright gullibility, swallowing the shoddiest lies as long it perpetuates and buys into already existing assumptions and marketable stereotypes. In US, international coverage usually comes in tow flavors, either Bunch of brown people killed each other or See the wacky foreigner! They’re so kooky!
No, I don’t particullary hate anyone. I don’t wish harm on the current royal family, as children obviously should not be punished for their parents’ sins. (I’m not big on constitutional monarchies in general, I am a stanch Republican in that sense.)
>how much traffic do you get from .jp users, and how much do you expect to retain after this
It’s a silly questions to ask someone who routinely makes fun of the current Pres, no? I think there’s one or two ips that come from .jp, I’m pretty sure one of them is the cartoonist “Hard,” of Sexy Losers. Don’t worry, I’ll draw some fuzzy bunnies or someting.
>when the planet is mine your death will be swift and painless
We Koreans eat a lot of Kimchi and are thus hard to Kill
>I still haven’t seen a Hugo Weaving cameo in this thread so Hyung’s use of cool glasses do not make him the One.
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 3:28 am | #
Where can I find one of those?
Lord Raa | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 4:24 am | #
http://ufocatcher.net/ hatsukoipl…agentsmith.html
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 5:56 am | #
He is… the ONE!
Benares | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 10:59 am | #
(cue dramatic music and lots of Matrix code flowing over Krazy Kimchi)
Benares | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 11:00 am | #
>Of course they’re generalizations, they’re my generalizations as a Korean, an Asian and an American.
Well, I can respect that, but my point really was: is it good to publish an article fueled by mere generalizations and full of obvious bias? It’s well-written and interesting, but I’ve come to understand that the best articles should be free of bias - perhaps it’s a personal thing. And yes, I realize the majority of news articles are not as objective as they should be, but the “everyone else does it, so it must be ok!” philosophy doesn’t fly. What exactly WOULD be the point of publishing such an article on Comixpedia - it seems just like a rant on how one culture, namely the one you identify with, views another. That’s great, but not exactly relevant.
I don’t mind when your comic has such views because, hey, it’s YOUR comic…your space to talk and say what you feel, and it doesn’t have to apologize, or even have any bearing on -anything-. But if you’re writing an article to be published on another venue, then that’s another thing…
…gah, you know what, what does it even matter? It’s your article, do what you want with it.
-Misha
Misha | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 1:34 pm | #
Well, my mistake. It’s a column. That’s it the crackpot funny kind. I think the article thing threw us off.
I never meant to imply any journalistic standard whatsoever, just an some opinionated riffs. And a draft at that that won’t make the cut as it really doesn’t have anything to do with the topic.
Hyung Kim | Email | Homepage | 06.22.03 - 1:47 pm | #
I have to have that ag. Smith doll…
Hm… nationalism.. funny thing, how people hate other people because of who their parents are…
And it makes the hating so simple, no reason to actually bother about what that person is like. “He’s a Serb, they’re all murderers” / “He’s Croatian, they’re all dogs” / “He’s from South-Of-Slovenia, they’r all barbarians” / “He’s Slovene, they’re all two-faced assholes” / “His ancestors killed my ancestors”
So simple.
c-nut | Email | Homepage | 06.23.03 - 7:31 am | #
damn… sorry for the double post… the net’s so slow I thought I had missed the button the first time…
c-nut | Email | Homepage | 06.23.03 - 7:34 am | #
Jesus, does everyone just tune me out when i speak, nowadays?
Neo Kojiro | Email | Homepage | 06.25.03 - 6:36 am | #
What’s with all this hate? I think that Japan has got to be one of China’s greatest inventions! …Well, they were pretty cool up until the disembowlings, starvation, rape and weapons testing we saw during WWII. …Naw, scratch that.
Bigot | Email | Homepage | 06.25.03 - 1:45 pm | #
Very funny!
Don | Email | Homepage | 08.20.04 - 6:26 am